Empowerment

[MetaSage]

A sense of incapacity is implicit in self-survival. In our experience we don't know how we came to exist, we didn't create the universe, there are core doubts about our ability to manage life. we don't feel capable to create life, to have what we want, etc. this is self-existence.

 

How to change that sense from one of incapacity to one of capacity? what is empowerment? 

[Mandy]

The concept of capacity or incapacity depends on separation. That separation never becomes, it's only created in thought like a mirage or a dotted line showing where something might be distinguished. That's why when resistance is released, it's apparent that the whole works out for the whole. Empowerment is simply seeing those dotted lines as one's creation. The appearance of limitation is to enhance infinite creativity, like a painter that chooses to only use one or two colors in a painting instead of the the entire spectrum, the painter must create and see things in new ways to create something that never was. The empowerment is that creativity, it's baked in, it just seems when we are creating limitation for the purpose of suffering that we don't want to take responsibility for, and in that resistance we won't wield that creativity either. Creative power is also a surrendering as creativity is non dual and not owned or had by anyone. Like a painter in the flow of painting thinks not about themselves or how they are doing but is utterly one with the paint and canvas, in creativity there is nothing that needs survive. No starving artist, no need to sell the painting, no need to have anyone like it or see it at all. 

[Phil]

8 hours ago, MetaSage said:

How to change that sense from one of incapacity to one of capacity?

Trying to change ‘a sense of incapacity’ is like trying to bend the spoon. That is impossible, and totally unnecessary. 

There is only to see the truth, that ‘a sense of incapacity’ is actually a thought.

It is not a sense as in ‘the senses’, seeing & hearing, or, perception. 

It is not a sense as in ‘sensation’, or feeling. 

It’s a thought which seems to conceptualize feeling, via the believing of the thought or concept. 

8 hours ago, MetaSage said:

what is empowerment? 

Emotion. 

 

 

For more on well being & happiness…

 

[MetaSage]

On 3/3/2023 at 4:33 PM, Mandy said:

The concept of capacity or incapacity depends on separation. That separation never becomes, it's only created in thought like a mirage or a dotted line showing where something might be distinguished. That's why when resistance is released, it's apparent that the whole works out for the whole. Empowerment is simply seeing those dotted lines as one's creation. The appearance of limitation is to enhance infinite creativity, like a painter that chooses to only use one or two colors in a painting instead of the the entire spectrum, the painter must create and see things in new ways to create something that never was. The empowerment is that creativity, it's baked in, it just seems when we are creating limitation for the purpose of suffering that we don't want to take responsibility for, and in that resistance we won't wield that creativity either. Creative power is also a surrendering as creativity is non dual and not owned or had by anyone. Like a painter in the flow of painting thinks not about themselves or how they are doing but is utterly one with the paint and canvas, in creativity there is nothing that needs survive. No starving artist, no need to sell the painting, no need to have anyone like it or see it at all. 

would appreciate some clarification.

 

I assert that it's not a concept but a pretty fundamental aspect of self-existence. Your breathing and senses themselves are predicated upon this drive. 

Notice you didn't experience creating the universe or how you came to exist, you don't know how to turn out life the way you want, you don't experience yourself as "god."

Edited March 7, 2023 by MetaSage

[MetaSage]

On 3/3/2023 at 6:46 PM, Phil said:

Trying to change ‘a sense of incapacity’ is like trying to bend the spoon. That is impossible, and totally unnecessary. 

There is only to see the truth, that ‘a sense of incapacity’ is actually a thought.

how so?

 

On 3/3/2023 at 6:46 PM, Phil said:

It is not a sense as in ‘the senses’, seeing & hearing, or, perception. 

It is not a sense as in ‘sensation’, or feeling. 

It’s a thought which seems to conceptualize feeling, via the believing of the thought or concept. 

it's a fundamental aspect of being a self, of self-existence.

 

We don't experience ourselves as "Gods". 

 

We inevitably entertain core doubts about our capacity to manage our own lives as we want.

 

And of course the ultimate "proof" of incapacity to a self is that its task of surviving is doomed to fail from the beginning.

 

On 3/3/2023 at 6:46 PM, Phil said:

Emotion. 

 

How is empowerment an emotion? Then it can easily come and go, as in in one moment I feel bored, and in another I don't.

 

Let's say it is an emotion. In that case then, it shares its basic origin with the sensation or aspect of incapacity since emotions are based on thought, even though they don't seem to be.

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by MetaSage

[Phil]

15 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

how so?

It is not a sense as in ‘the senses’, seeing & hearing, or, perception. 

It is not a sense as in ‘sensation’, or feeling. 

It’s a thought which seems to conceptualize feeling, via the believing of the thought or concept. 

 

20 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

it's a fundamental aspect of being a self, of self-existence.

There’s no direct experience of being a self, or of self-existence. It’s a fundamental aspect of a philosophy. 

Is the emotion, the feeling of empowerment wanted, or the thought, idea, concept, philosophy?

 

20 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

We don't experience ourselves as "Gods". 

We don’t experience ourselves at all. 

There is no actual / direct experience of ‘we experience’. 

 

20 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

We inevitably entertain core doubts about our capacity to manage our own lives as we want.

Doubt is an emotion. Also felt. 

 

20 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

And of course the ultimate "proof" of incapacity to a self is that its task of surviving is doomed to fail from the beginning.

The duality of a self and its task is assumed. Nothing wrong with thoughts, conceptualizing, etc, but the emotional scale makes the shift from doubt to empowerment very simple & easy. Might take ten minutes the first couple times using the scale, then just a couple minutes, then it happens automatically. 

[Phil]

35 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

How is empowerment an emotion?

In that it’s felt. 

 

35 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

Then it can easily come and go, as in in one moment I feel bored, and in another I don't?

Emotion isn’t a separate thing. Boredom is also an emotion. 

 

35 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

 

Let's say it is: in that case then, it shares the basic origin with the sensation or aspect of incapacity since emotions are based on thought, even though they don't seem to be.

That’s a conceptualization of emotion, whereas emotion is felt. 

[MetaSage]

19 hours ago, Phil said:

It is not a sense as in ‘the senses’, seeing & hearing, or, perception. 

It is not a sense as in ‘sensation’, or feeling. 

It’s a thought which seems to conceptualize feeling, via the believing of the thought or concept. 

Senses themselves are there for survival.

 

What you say goes out the window when you see a tiger approaching you. As a self you know you're unable to defend yourself in that specific case. Just so when it comes to the whole domain of self-survival.

19 hours ago, Phil said:

There’s no direct experience of being a self, or of self-existence. It’s a fundamental aspect of a philosophy. 

Is the emotion, the feeling of empowerment wanted, or the thought, idea, concept, philosophy?

 

We don’t experience ourselves at all. 

There is no actual / direct experience of ‘we experience’. 

 

Doubt is an emotion. Also felt. 

 

The duality of a self and its task is assumed. Nothing wrong with thoughts, conceptualizing, etc, but the emotional scale makes the shift from doubt to empowerment very simple & easy. Might take ten minutes the first couple times using the scale, then just a couple minutes, then it happens automatically. 

 

An emotion is thought first before it's felt. It's a thought that is emotionally-charged. Notice your experience.

 

Well, self is an experience that we have. This fundamental sense of incapacity is underneath that experience. 

This is a context in which we exist. and one that we suffer as a backdrop for our self experience.

 

No matter what we do, think, or say, we still don't have absolute capacity -- to get what we want, to make the world exactly like we want it, to create life or existence, to be "god".

 

This does have a profound impact on the experience of being a self. It defines what's possible and determines the tone and parameters, so to speak.

 

How could we, and when do we, feel capable as beings?

Edited March 7, 2023 by MetaSage

[Phil]

25 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

How could we, and when do we, feel capable as beings?

What can fit in a full cup? 

[MetaSage]

53 minutes ago, Phil said:

What can fit in a full cup? 

what is the cup full of? how come is it full? what is that state about? how come that is usually the opposite -- incapacity -- of our experience?

[Phil]

24 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

what is the cup full of?

Thought activity. 

 

24 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

how come is it full? what is that state about? how come that is usually the opposite -- incapacity -- of our experience?

Like this. 

 

What’s really wanted, a concept about empowerment or the feeling of empowerment? 

[MetaSage]

On 3/7/2023 at 8:05 PM, Phil said:

Thought activity. 

 

Like this. 

 

What’s really wanted, a concept about empowerment or the feeling of empowerment? 

Ok, I thought you meant something else with the full cup.

 

Feeling.

 

In any case you could try to answer from different angles or in different ways, and elaborate sometimes. Giving the answers and one-pointers may not be very useful in certain cases. What effect does that create on others?

I'm not precisely the most indicative example of succinct and integral expression but English isn't my first language. Just some feedback on your facilitation.

Edited March 9, 2023 by MetaSage

[Phil]

54 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

In any case you could try to answer from different angles or in different ways, and elaborate sometimes. Giving the answers, and one-pointer ones, may not be very useful in certain cases. What does another get with that?

Usually an insight, or a more specific question arises, or both. In this case though, exactly what you’re asking about, feeling empowerment. 

 

Another angle or way to elaborate would be aligning thought with feeling, vs expecting feeling to align with thought. If the feeling of empowerment is wanted, thoughts of inadequacy won’t do. 

[MetaSage]

15 hours ago, Phil said:

Another angle or way to elaborate would be aligning thought with feeling, vs expecting feeling to align with thought. If the feeling of empowerment is wanted, thoughts of inadequacy won’t do. 

 

What is aligning thought with feeling? How to do so?

How to feel empowerment, then? Since I'm only thinking about it.

 

I feel explanations are sometimes too concise, that I find hard to grasp.

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by MetaSage

[Phil]

6 hours ago, MetaSage said:

 

What is aligning thought with feeling? How to do so?

https://www.actualityofbeing.com/aligning-thought-with-feeling

 

6 hours ago, MetaSage said:

How to feel empowerment, then? Since I'm only thinking about it.

 

I feel explanations are sometimes too concise, that I find hard to grasp.

 

https://www.actualityofbeing.com/on-the-importance-of-exploring-understanding-emotions