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Yea the word myself.  You have to see how it’s a mask.  It’s just like someone doing special effects make up on you.  A special affects person doing make up on you but he just puts on a mask of makeup that looks like you.  Why would someone put on special affects makeup just to make themselves look the same.  You take on the role of yourself.  Imagine you being transported into a book and you take on a character in that book.  It would be cool being someone else and living this other character’s life.  But you would want to come back to being yourself again and not this other person.  Thats how you have to think about it that your this character in this book and that character is you but that its like a deferent character.  Once you become this other person thats the same person then your mind stops thinking on its own automatically foging your thoughts with thoughts that dont matter.  Your mind stops automatically thinking about what other people are going to think when you say this or that whatever you’re going to say.  The past also fogs your mind everything youve done and said your mind automatically thinks what people are going to think when you say something or do something .  Thats why meditation is good it trains your mind not to think of everything youve done and said in the past and you dont think of that stuff and you just think about what your saying or doing.  Your mind thinks automatically about all kinds of stuff.  When you meditate think of what that word means the word myself and then it will hit you what it means.  Then you’ll will be living a new life as someone else but actually you will take on the appearance of yourself.  Thats why its cool to have a alias name you live some other life.  I’m going to keep trying to awaken people but I’m not that smart and i might be messing up you all on the path.  I hope im not messing you guys up on the path.

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On 6/8/2023 at 11:14 AM, JG1001 said:

Yea the word myself.  You have to see how it’s a mask.  It’s just like someone doing special effects make up on you.  A special affects person doing make up on you but he just puts on a mask of makeup that looks like you.  Why would someone put on special affects makeup just to make themselves look the same.  You take on the role of yourself.  Imagine you being transported into a book and you take on a character in that book.  It would be cool being someone else and living this other character’s life.  But you would want to come back to being yourself again and not this other person.  Thats how you have to think about it that your this character in this book and that character is you but that its like a deferent character.  Once you become this other person thats the same person then your mind stops thinking on its own automatically foging your thoughts with thoughts that dont matter.  Your mind stops automatically thinking about what other people are going to think when you say this or that whatever you’re going to say.  The past also fogs your mind everything youve done and said your mind automatically thinks what people are going to think when you say something or do something .  Thats why meditation is good it trains your mind not to think of everything youve done and said in the past and you dont think of that stuff and you just think about what your saying or doing.  Your mind thinks automatically about all kinds of stuff.  When you meditate think of what that word means the word myself and then it will hit you what it means.  Then you’ll will be living a new life as someone else but actually you will take on the appearance of yourself.  Thats why its cool to have a alias name you live some other life.  I’m going to keep trying to awaken people but I’m not that smart and i might be messing up you all on the path.  I hope im not messing you guys up on the path.

I’m talking about being self conscious.

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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:


Then who are you trying to help with your teaching?

"You" can not be enlightened, when "you" drops enlightenment happens. Therefore, no one can be enlightened. 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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3 minutes ago, James123 said:

"You" can not be enlightened, when "you" drops enlightenment happens. Therefore, no one can be enlightened. 


Then teaching it to people would be obviously ridiculous.  I need someone who has a good answer to this dilemma.

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5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:


Then teaching it to people would be obviously ridiculous.  I need someone who has a good answer to this dilemma.

Easy. Now is before birth. Who Borns and will die is ego/accumulated thoughts. Real you never born. Nothing has never happened. 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Easy. Now is before birth. Who Borns and will die is ego/accumulated thoughts. Real you never born. Nothing has never happened. 


Did you say there is no enlightenment?  I think I recall you did at one point. 

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Just now, Joseph Maynor said:


Did you say there is no enlightenment?  I think I recall you did at one point. 

Enlightenment is simply being where you already are. What You really are is nothing , enlightenment is recognition of that. So you decide, can nothing be enlightened? 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Enlightenment is simply being where you already are. What You really are is nothing , enlightenment is recognition of that. So you decide, can nothing be enlightened? 


So here’s my question, if there is no enlightenment and it’s not possible for people to awaken — why are we spending so much time talking about it and trying to help others on the path?  All of us, not just Phil, not just me, not just you.  All of interested in this and who talk about it so much.  Think of how much of our time we spend on this.  That would be unfortunate if it were all for nought.

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So here’s my question, if there is no enlightenment and it’s not possible for people to awaken — why are we spending so much time talking about it and trying to help others on the path?

There is no people, therefore no enlightenment. Now is before so called birth, nothing has never happened. This is the absolute truth. Life is just accumulated of thoughts, I don't spend time to people to wake up, because I is the biggest illusion itself. But, after enlightenment, last point is returning back to so called life, forgetting everything/including yourself and dedication to truth. That's why people help other to wake up. But all is a game, dream. Not even important. 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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10 minutes ago, James123 said:

There is no people, therefore no enlightenment. Now is before so called birth, nothing has never happened. This is the absolute truth. Life is just accumulated of thoughts, I don't spend time to people to wake up, because I is the biggest illusion itself. But, after enlightenment, last point is returning back to so called life, forgetting everything/including yourself and dedication to truth. That's why people help other to wake up. But all is a game, dream. Not even important. 


This is a real puzzle.  Seems to me if you had this Truth you would spend your time differently than talking about enlightenment.  That would seem to be the last thing one would want to talk about.  So something is not adding up here.  So what you're saying is this enlightenment focus is just random noise and it could be anything else really, and it wouldn't matter.  It's all just a dream.  It's a dream that Something seems to be Awake in though, right?  What is that Awakeness that is not a dream?

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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:


This is a real puzzle.  Seems to me if you had this Truth you would spend your time differently than talking about enlightenment.  That would seem to be the last thing one would want to talk about.

So why all teachers, prophets etc... just talk about The Truth and help the people? My life is just around Truth, which took all over me. After enlightenment, there is no turning back. Because, not the food, source feed you, not the people, but the source satisfies you, specially being in Love completely overwhelmes you, fullfils you. 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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6 minutes ago, James123 said:

So why all teachers, prophets etc... just talk about The Truth and help the people? My life is just around Truth, which took all over me. After enlightenment, there is no turning back. Because, not the food, source feed you, not the people, but the source satisfies you, specially being in Love completely overwhelmes you, fullfils you. 

 

That's where Love emerges.  ❤️ Love is when you help others in the illusion while being in the illusion yourself to become spiritually enlightened.  

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6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

 

That's where Love emerges.  ❤️ Love is when you help others in the illusion while being in the illusion yourself to become spiritually enlightened.  

Everyone/everything is you. Therefore, being in love is inevitable. İt is incredible. Love is the only gift, divine power and bliss, and it is you. Your heart can conquer entire universe. 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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19 minutes ago, James123 said:

Everyone/everything is you. Therefore, being in love is inevitable. İt is incredible. Love is the only gift, divine power and bliss, and it is you. Your heart can conquer entire universe. 

 

What I am is nondual immortal unchanging Witness consciousness.

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