Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 To be clear my perspective is what I am aware of. Your perspective is what you are aware of. Right now I am aware of the computer that I am typing this post on and the temperature is 53 degrees and rainy where I am. Now I'm wondering if your perspective is different than mine? What are you aware of right now? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: Right now I am aware of the iPad that I am typing this response on, and the temperature is 28 degrees and cloudy where I am. So then if you are telling the truth we aren't dreaming. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: But how can I be sure you’re telling the truth? Well if your perspective is as you say it is then you are aware that the perspective I claim to have is not yours. In addition you would know that you aren't consciously creating this post that I'm making right now. Thus by inference you must be other than me since you are not the one creating this post right now. Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: But perhaps you, this thread, and this entire forum is a projection of my mind. No I am just the source of this post. The source of this post is not imaginary. It is truly conscious and it is I. Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Just now, Saylor Twift said: Says the projection of my mind. If I was not conscious then I wouldn't understand what you are saying. The words you are reading did not type this. Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: Says the projection of my mind. Your projections aren't creating anything. I am creating your so-called projection. Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Saylor Twift said: Why are you arguing with me that you’re real? If you’re real, surely you don’t need anybody to validate that for you? Why do you claim I am unreal? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Saylor Twift said: To see if you would argue that you’re real. I did and I made my point. I'm as real as you. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Saylor Twift said: Well I’m still not convinced. Why not? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Saylor Twift said: How can you prove to me that you’re real? I want a sound argument written in syllogistic form. Okay first give me your definition of real. Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Saylor Twift said: That which exists. And your definition of exists? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Saylor Twift said: Is 1. If I did not exist then this post wouldn't exist 2. This post exists 3. Thus, I am Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Saylor Twift said: @Myself Do you wonder whether of not I exist? I know you exist because of your post. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: Seems like a valid argument, but I disagree with the first premise. I think posts can exist without you typing them. So you think that there is no reason this post exists? Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Saylor Twift said: Who’s post? Yours. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: Yeah I know this is untrue by being aware that I am posting this post. Edited January 18, 2023 by Myself Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Saylor Twift said: Who? You. The one that understands this. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Saylor Twift said: I promise you I don’t. You clearly understand what I'm trying to express by the way you respond. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: By the way who responds? You. Your response is the evidence that you exist. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: And I also think there’s no reason for that. You missed the edited version if it matters: "I know this is untrue by being aware that I am posting this post." What do you think it means to be? How do you determine if something exists or not? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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