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Just now, Saylor Twift said:
Says the projection of my mind.
If I was not conscious then I wouldn't understand what you are saying. The words you are reading did not type this.
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4 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said:
But perhaps you, this thread, and this entire forum is a projection of my mind.
No I am just the source of this post. The source of this post is not imaginary. It is truly conscious and it is I.
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23 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said:
But how can I be sure you’re telling the truth?
Well if your perspective is as you say it is then you are aware that the perspective I claim to have is not yours. In addition you would know that you aren't consciously creating this post that I'm making right now. Thus by inference you must be other than me since you are not the one creating this post right now.
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11 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said:
Right now I am aware of the iPad that I am typing this response on, and the temperature is 28 degrees and cloudy where I am.
So then if you are telling the truth we aren't dreaming.
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To be clear my perspective is what I am aware of. Your perspective is what you are aware of.
Right now I am aware of the computer that I am typing this post on and the temperature is 53 degrees and rainy where I am.
Now I'm wondering if your perspective is different than mine? What are you aware of right now?
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9 minutes ago, Orb said:
Awareness can't be proved because it's already the case.
The vast blue sky is awareness, the clouds are awareness appearing as thought, the clouds cannot prove they are the blue sky because no matter what shape they took, they would always look like clouds, even though they actually are the blue sky.
So it's all awareness, but it can't be proved, because there's no need to prove what already is.
Why do you identify with things that you perceive? Also why do you equate clouds with sky?
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Firstly I claim that I am aware.
I may claim all sorts of things but I'm only interested in true claims.
So can I prove that my claim is true?
You might ask how I know that I am aware.
I know that I am aware because I am aware of my experience.
In other words my experience is what I am aware of.
By being aware of my experience I then realize that I am aware.
Now if you doubt me I will further prove that I'm aware by responding to your doubt in a way that reveals to you that I am aware.
Any doubts?
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22 minutes ago, Someone here said:
No .in fact everything you do is compulsive. And this can be easily proven if you just take just 5 minutes of observing your thoughts and actions and how they come about . They ALL come about automatically and without any input from "You".
Right now I could type, not type, stand, eat, walk, run, etc.
And I am consciously choosing to do some of what I am currently doing. You can do the same.
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2 minutes ago, Someone here said:
Excellent. So that proves that you don't have free will.
No it proves that some of my actions are compulsive. I am free to do whatever I'm capable of and so are you.
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9 minutes ago, Someone here said:
So please try to NOT think of a pink elephant....can you do it ?
Hint : of course you can't. As soon as you read that sentence your mind automatically gave you an image of a pink elephant.
You made the thought. You influenced me to think a certain way I don't deny that.
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3 minutes ago, Someone here said:
Why ? What does "I" have to do with suffering? You see the richest people in the works with supermassive ego and they are perfectly happy.
I explained it in the post .do you want me to explain it again? Just re-read the post and check your direct experience.
You just think that you aren't making your thoughts. It's not true.
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11 minutes ago, Someone here said:
Watch your own thoughts right now. Become aware of the experience of what it's like to think. Watch how they come and go, as if arising out of a void.
Now, ask yourself honestly, are you choosing your thoughts? Are you in control of what thoughts arise within your mind, and when? It seems like the basic premise of the free will argument is that there is a wilfil agent behind what we do, that controls behaviour like a driver drives a car. But is this really the case?
If you watch closely how thought happens, you will become aware that there is no way that you could consciously choose your own thoughts, because this would necessarily mean that you knew what you were going to think before you thought it. Therefore we must conclude that thoughts emerge from a source which we don't have conscious control over; unconscious processes that we can't manipulate or predict.
Why do you think that you aren't making your thoughts?
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9 minutes ago, Someone here said:
The ability to be the chooser or doer for our thoughts,actions, emotions etc
No. For instance try this..if I told do NOT think of a pink elephant..you will automatically be thinking about pink elephants.
What do you mean by "we " and by "will "?
If you haven't noticed yet ..everything you do is compulsive. Your thoughts. Your actions.your reactions. All of it .
You have abilities. For example, you can type.
Now you have two options to choose from right now. You can either type or not type. Your will is your ability to choose what to do. So you are exercising your will right now.
In reality you have many options to choose from because you can do more than just type.
Not everything I do is compulsive because some of my actions I choose to preform.
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12 minutes ago, Someone here said:
I'm not saying we have free will . I know that for the most part we are not in control of our physical or mental processes. It's easy to prove if you try to guess what will be your next thought after 10 seconds from now . So im agreeing with you that there is no free will .
However my point was that even though we have not free will ..we are still held accountable for our actions .
Today, with ever increasing understanding of neurons, circuits and cognition, the concept of free will has become outdated and any metaphysical account of free will is rightfully rejected. The consequence is not, however, that we become mindless automata responding predictably to external stimuli. We don't have free will but we MUST act as if we Have free will.
Do you understand my point ?
Can you define free will?
Aren't you free to do whatever you are capable of?
We each have our own will.
Our only problem is our compulsiveness and inabilities.
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20 minutes ago, DMT Elf said:
@Myself Is this WokeBloke?
I’m experiencing suspicion that WokeBloke has found the actuality of being forum.
Aren't we all? Or maybe just me lol.
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Just now, James123 said:
Sure. I got it. So where is this you? Space? These words or fingers that writes these sentences?
My body is in space. I don't know what I am so I don't know where I am.
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1 hour ago, James123 said:
What is experience? Where is it? Isnt it a just a word that you have learned?
In this context I'm referring to the totality of what you are conscious of right now. Personally, my experience isn't located anywhere in space as space is a part of my experience. Essentially I'm asking if you are conscious of anything and if so what are you conscious of.
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5 minutes ago, James123 said:
The real question is what is definition or experience?
How can you claim that there is no experience without even knowing what it refers to?
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9 minutes ago, Loop said:
Boundless Feeling is these words you are reading, the one reading them, the place you seem to be reading this at, the Whole. Look for the edge of what you think is apart, it is only by believing the contents of thought that it seems like things are apart.
It is so direct there isn’t a knowing about it, knowing it would be to throw out the Truth for a belief, to attach to an idea of separation rather then melt in Love. Trying to put knowing before feeling will never work, Feeling/ Freedom is the core of your being in a sense, everything you need just comes to you when you trust your own guidance, the Whole Body is guiding you.
How do you understand my post and respond to it?
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Just now, James123 said:
There is no such a thing as experience. Above is all thoughts.
Can you give me your definition of experience?
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2 minutes ago, Loop said:
I never claimed there is a feeling, I am saying there isn’t a feeling. Just Boundless Feeling.
That there is a feeling is the content of thought, real feeling has no edge.
How do you know about the boundless feeling that you are describing? And if you don't know about it then why are you claiming that there is boundless feeling?
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7 minutes ago, Loop said:
There isn’t a one who knows or doesn’t know, that is the content of thought.
Feeling, not a feeling, or a bunch of feelings, Direct Feeling.
There isn’t a feeling to experience, Feeling is Experience, the ‘totality of it all’ in a sense.
Intuition cannot be grasped, it is purely spontaneous.
Welcome to the forum by the way 🤗
If you don't know about the feeling then why are you claiming that there is a feeling?
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2 minutes ago, Loop said:
If you truly did not know about the feeling then you wouldn't know there is a feeling. Thus your claim that there is a feeling contradicts your claim that you don't know about the feeling. In addition if you didn't know anything you wouldn't be able to appropriately respond to my posts as you just did.
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2 minutes ago, Loop said:
How do you know that you don't know?
Is your perspective different than mine?
in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition
Posted · Edited by Myself
Your projections aren't creating anything. I am creating your so-called projection.