Enlightened Cat
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2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:
This is as close as we're gonna get for a wiki page for the Self. I've never seen this before. There doesn't need to be so much voluminous talk when we have a good source. This is what Advaita Vedanta is pointing to basically. The Self. It's not terribly complicated. The point is this Witness is not the ego of Solipsism. There's one error in the wiki article as it applies to Advaita Vedanta, Shakti (will/energy/motion) plays no role. The Self (or Brahman) is only Sakshi - the nondual Witness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshi_(witness)To be fair, looking for the witness is probably more practical for a seeker. The quote from Swami summarizes well. The empty set does a great job of trying to explicitly define something undefinable though.
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1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:
This is as close as we're gonna get for a wiki page for the Self. I've never seen this before. There doesn't need to be so much voluminous talk when we have a good source. This is what Advaita Vedanta is pointing to basically. The Self. It's not terribly complicated. The point is this Witness is not the ego of Solipsism. There's one error in the wiki article as it applies to Advaita Vedanta, Shakti (will/energy/motion) plays no role. The Self (or Brahman) is only Sakshi - the nondual Witness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshi_(witness)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_set
QuoteIn mathematics, the empty set is the unique set having no elements; its size or cardinality (count of elements in a set) is zero. Some axiomatic set theories ensure that the empty set exists by including an axiom of empty set, while in other theories, its existence can be deduced. Many possible properties of sets are vacuously true for the empty set.
Any set other than the empty set is called non-empty...
...While the empty set is a standard and widely accepted mathematical concept, it remains an ontological curiosity, whose meaning and usefulness are debated by philosophers and logicians.
The empty set is not the same thing as nothing; rather, it is a set with nothing inside it and a set is always something. This issue can be overcome by viewing a set as a bag—an empty bag undoubtedly still exists. Darling (2004) explains that the empty set is not nothing, but rather "the set of all triangles with four sides, the set of all numbers that are bigger than nine but smaller than eight, and the set of all opening moves in chess that involve a king."
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What doesn't exist couldn't describe anything. Mind your mental illusions.
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Me neither man.
There's nothing to accept unless you think there is something there who can...unaccept. Point to unaccepting?
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4 hours ago, Orb said:
This is always the most interesting "thing" ever.
Hell yes. Never describable by anything. Always open to infinite exploration.
4 hours ago, Orb said:Suddenly what was once uncomfortable and unfavorable was Fresh, it was brand new, it was genuinely interesting. "I" explored the whole moment of this grogginess and found it akin to a beautiful field. ❤️
Hell yes.
4 hours ago, Orb said:This morning I sat on my exercise bench in my garage super groggy with all the dull sensations that come with waking up, I was on 5 hours of sleep, feeling a slight headache, and overall just slow.
Ego is very quick to explain such things away, but when the explaining is noticed as simply just explaining, it quickly dissolves and you are left in the ineffable.
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4 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:
trying to see what really the thought is about.
Nothing. It's about nothing. This is the thought! Try to see what a thought is about, without thinking! Thoughts simply aren't there until you start thinking they are.
5 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:I was trying to get close to that nucleus of pain, to that karmic content
This is like trying to get close to unicorns. You aren't a unicorn hunter. A unicorn hunter exists in the same realm as unicorns; thought. You can't get close to the contents of thought, unless you believe yourself to be inside of a thought.
Where does "karmic content", and "nucleus of pain" go, when you aren't thinking? Inspect it without thinking.
8 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:'You are complete shit. just accept it, look at the facts, she´s mocking you. She's showing the money she took from you'.
The thought appears as that. Subsequently, assumptions appear about this thought, and those assumptions are thoughts about the initial thought. The assumption is essentially that the initial thought isn't a thought, but that it actually points to something real. It's a house of thoughts/cards. Sit with that thought and watch it appear and disappear. Notice how the feeling is synonymous with the thought, and disappears with the thought.
You can't be inside of something you are viewing. You can't read a story while being in the story.14 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:but the fact that is this kind of karmic repetitive very very sticky thought has been welded into my consciousness since I can remember.
Anything thought-related, is thought. No exceptions. Trace the thought back. When was it ever, not a thought?
15 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:I can not really destroy this thought for good.
This is a thought. Destroying thoughts is for unicorn hunters. In order to destroy thoughts, you must be thinking. You caught yourself in a catch-22! In order to hunt unicorns, you must be thinking of unicorns!
17 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:I even have a theory this kind of thought ("you are shit"), does not even come from my life but past life or karmic memory.
Watch the theory disappear when you stop thinking of it. Look at moments in your life where there are "lapses" in thoughts or period of "no thought." Like drifting into sleep, or immediately upon waking up. Notice the clarity and peacefulness before thoughts rush in and obstruct. Become obsessed with those moments. Look to observe them and recreate them.
18 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:like there´s really no other problem in my life but this fucking shitty karmic thought which seems impossible to understand or dismantle.
Unicorns can't be understood. Just let them vanish. Understanding is the very perpetuation of unicorns. Understanding is the very perpetuation of said "karma."
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1 hour ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:
How do I stop believing thoughts as 'myself'?
Sit with them intently and watch them appear and disappear. Dark/dim room is best. Don't shy away from them.
There is nothing to stop because unicorns can't believe in thoughts. You couldn't believe in thoughts either, there is just the experience of that thought, too.
Trying to "stop believing in thoughts" is like trying to hunt unicorns. You can't stop believing in thoughts without any thoughts present, because the idea that you have to stop believing in thoughts is itself a thought.
1 hour ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:It seems thought has the power to 'bring me down'. How to regain the power?
This is only how an assumption about thoughts could feel presently, because thoughts point to nothing and don't exist. You assume they point to something, and that assuming feels like whatever you assume. It only takes a moment to focus on the feeling thought creates, and then realize that nothing in your thought could cause that feeling because you are not in the thought.
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Whatever it is, isn't, because that would be another thought.
Try to find what a thought is without thinking! -
Come up with a day? 😂
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On 4/28/2024 at 2:55 AM, Rose said:
why did I create this “me” who thinks it’s this separate self
Unicorns couldn't create anything, or think that they are separate. Both of these assumptions are themselves the thoughts of separation. That is still the content of thought, which you are viewing, and thus could never be in. You can't read a story while being in a story.
Sit with it and watch the "me" thought vanish.On 4/28/2024 at 2:55 AM, Rose said:what am I as a universe trying to achieve with this?
Thoughts don't achieve.
On 4/28/2024 at 2:55 AM, Rose said:Am I just bored as a universe? Is this just to entertain myself? What is my end goal here?
End goals, and relieving boredom, are for unicorns.
What is the end goal of listening to a song? Or feeling a nice breeze? Or being nice to someone?On 4/28/2024 at 2:55 AM, Rose said:What does this universe person 😅 want to do?
There are thoughts about what you should do or become, but the "you" in question appears and vanishes alongside those thoughts. For example, you can't want something if you're not imagining a "want" first. "You" and "thought" are the same occurrence, there is no difference.
Thought couldn't want anything, unless you believe you're in the thought, which could never be the case since you're aware of the thought. You can't be inside something you're viewing.
Universe is aware of thoughts and it is never defined by what it is aware of. You are being aware of the thought, not being in the thought. Universe is being aware of.
On 4/28/2024 at 2:55 AM, Rose said:Am I going to get to the next level as a universe once all my separate selves reunite? Am I feeling lonely as a universe so I am just playing?
Separate selves and loneliness are thoughts about separation which could never define anything that exists outside of thought.
On 4/28/2024 at 2:55 AM, Rose said:Please explain to me in as simple language as possible because I am going crazy..
There is no entity out there called the "universe" plotting things, there are thoughts about the universe, which the universe is being.
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Undercurrents pull at your heart
Feeling so powerful it leads you on
The waves of emotion wash over me.
But can you see the ocean through the reef?
Undercurrents drag at your heart
Feeling so powerful it leads you on
A new tide comes in and I'm washed away
Forces stronger than hate are left in the wake
Stronger than hate
Anchored through the tidal waves
Go on, take the bait
You can't fight the currents of love!
Lifts you from the deep
Rescued when you're lost at sea
Only surge you'll ever need
You can't fight the currents of love!
Stronger than hate
Anchored through the hurricane
Go on, no need to wait
You can't fight the currents of love!
Lifts you from the brink
Rescued when you start to sink
Only dream you'll ever need
You can't fight the currents of love!
One, two, three, four Motion on the ocean floor!
Five, six, seven, eight Double bubble, swim some more!
One, two, three, four Motion on the ocean floor!
One, two, three, four Swishing fishes, bring it in!
Five, six, seven, eight Triple ripple, shake your fins!
One, two, three, four Swishing fishes, let's begin~!
One, two, three, four Salmon jammin' everywhere!
Five, six, seven, eight Slammin' clams, I just don't care!
One, two, three, four Salmon jammin' everywhere!
One, two, three, four Swimmin' undersea parade!
Five, six, seven, eight Cutesy-wootsy, pink mermaid!
One, two, three, four Swimmin' undersea parade!
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You aren't AWAKE™ if you aren't conscious of an alien squirrel prancing around your room right now.
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9 hours ago, Blessed2 said:
It's like you're sitting in a movie theatre and mistaking yourself to be a character you see on the movie screen.
Then when the spiritual message that there is a mis-perception (mis-idenitfication) happening, you hear it as the movie character because there is a pre-supposing that you are the movie character.
You think that the message is directed toward the movie character. And what follows is a confusion that the movie character has done something wrong, that it is doing the mistake, and that it has to correct the mistake.
This is how "you / I have an ego" comes about.
YOU ARE NOT DOING EGO STUFF. EGO STUFF IS DOING YOU.
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9 hours ago, Blessed2 said:"I am that I am"
"You can't know what you are because you are being what you are."
That is SUCH a wild card.
I can't know, learn, define what I am because I am already what I am.
🎯❤️
On 4/5/2024 at 3:34 PM, Blessed2 said:Santa doesn't believe in Santa.
🎯❤️
10 hours ago, Blessed2 said:"I am that I am"
"You can't know what you are because you are being what you are."
That is SUCH a wild card.
I can't know, learn, define what I am because I am already what I am.
🎯❤️
"Santa can't believe in Santa" yep exactly haha -
32 minutes ago, Phil said:
Can you imagine yourself?
No, not truly. Because you are imagining. There can't be you imagining you.
32 minutes ago, Phil said:Like a thinker?
Yes. Any subject-object relation.
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11 minutes ago, Phil said:
Thought about a separate self… and emotions… ?
Yes.
Imagining yourself as separate creates a desire about that separate self, and that desire is the emotion or feeling felt about that separate self.11 minutes ago, Phil said:Far less or no thoughts about a separate self…?
No thoughts would be better.
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5 hours ago, Phil said:
What are feelings of separation & division?
That's a good question.
The feelings "play a part" in it, but aren't separation and division itself. The feelings are more like an intelligent reaction to serve the separation and division, and that separation and division is an imagination or thought which divides experience or makes a statement about experience. This creates a desire to "protect" myself from that division or thought. And that desire creates a certain feeling which serves it. Whether it is fear, jealousy, anger, etc.
For example, if I fear something coming up in the future, the thought creates an idea of me in the future, and that thought feels bad because there can't be two of "me", one in the future and one in the present. This is the division created by thought or imagination. The fear is equivalent to the desire to avoid the future scenario, but what is not seen that there is no future scenario outside of the thought of one. The fear serves to protect the current me from the imaginary future me. And so you could say that this is a "feeling of separation."
In the case of autism, if there is an idea like "I am maladaptive" or "I cause maladaptivity" or "I have to fix things that are maladaptive" or even "I am in a world/situation which is maladaptive", that causes you to imagine the world as a thing that lacks, relative to a future scenario where it is ideal and doesn't lack. It makes you look at the world as a set of "problems that need to be fixed." Which seems to fundamentally trickle down to this narrative of separation which often goes like "In the future I will finally be perfect and whole." Not to mention, it causes you to overlook the intelligence of what is occurring in front of you and it causes suppression, because you've put everything in a box of "maladaptive problems" without appreciating the dynamics of why they exist in the first place and what they serve to accomplish, aside from just being problematic for you. Similar to how someone who feels anxiety drinks alcohol in order to alleviate the "problem" of anxiety. It overlooks the aspect of it which is not maladaptive or a problem at all, but is simply there to serve you. -
7 hours ago, Phil said:
Right.
Maybe I understand this more now.
Is it perhaps the belief that the opposite isn't true which ironically perpetuates the maladaptivity? Because it creates an imperative that something is broken or needs fixing, which is the fundamental narrative which drives the feelings of separation and division in the first place?
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38 minutes ago, Phil said:
Right.
Why is that? Is it the idea that there is a thing which needs adjusting which is misunderstanding? Kind of like a finger that is pointing blame or something.
For example, someone has an emotional outburst of some sort. Then it is thought that something needs adjusting, and then maybe the environment is adjusted by removing the thing that triggered it. This prevents the outburst from being perceived (which might be what you mean by suppression), and so that vilifies the outburst as something which needs adjusting, but it is actually a symptom of whatever initially caused it to be acted out. So maybe to say it more accurately, the outburst is not maladaptive at all, but an intelligent response to something perceived as a threat. Like how a cat hissing can be seen as aggressive or unwanted behavior, but if you make the goal "I want my cat to stop hissing", then you are removing a natural and vital defense mechanism and so it does not fix the initial cause at all (suppression). The proper question or inquiry is why does it hiss or what causes that hissing. -
26 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
This is what I think leads to solipsism.
Thinking about bubbles is the leading cause of solipsism. Every solipsist is apparently trapped inside of a bubble of some sort. Wonder what would happen if they tried to pop the edge of their experience with a needle.
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1 hour ago, Phil said:
no deficit / no maladaptive situation.
How is that? Meaning, nothing needs to be adjusted?
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4 hours ago, Phil said:
But maladaptive means… not providing adequate or appropriate adjustment to the environment or situation. What if it’s exactly the opposite?
Meaning, the environment or situation is not adequate or appropriate? I guess that's a better way to describe it yeah.
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23 minutes ago, Phil said:
There isn’t really a ‘sense of’ understanding, there are self referential thoughts like ‘I understand’, ‘my understanding’, or in extreme suppressive egocentrism ‘levels of understanding’. ‘I understand’ is the same as ‘I’m worried’. Misunderstanding is experiential and so is worry, but understanding isn’t experienced like a separate self which is worried isn’t experienced.
Impatience is experienced, as an emotion, as how a thought or interpretation feels, as guidance for thoughts. Patience is only assumed to be an experienced. Patience isn’t experienced because you’re eternal. Understanding isn’t experienced because there’s not actually anything to know or understand. Impatience & misunderstanding are experienced because you’re appearing is this.
No one desires to have to act or be a certain way that they naturally aren’t to fit into social norms founded upon, acting and being ways which are unnatural. One which is ‘wired’ in such a way that they don’t experience in that way could be listened to by everyone who does, rather than labelled as having something wrong with them, or some deficit of some kind.
22 minutes ago, Phil said:Kinda yeah. The lens-sphere isn’t separate of the world-sphere. The lens-sphere ‘evolves’ just as does the world-sphere.
That all makes sense to me.
I definitely hold this sentiment that many areas around the human condition are in the "dark age" so to speak, like psychology, health, education, etc.
It seems to be this visceral psychosomatic entanglement stemming from our inability to understand or perceive what we are. And I guess it percolates to "everything", as you said the lens-sphere isn't separate of the world-sphere. And it seems like the tendency of the mind to understand "things" and split the environment into parts of itself neglects the psychosomatic nature of it all.
When I look at autism I personally don't see it as a deficit at all. It is just a way of processing that is maladaptive with an environment it seems. Then, like how I mentioned before, the maladaptive effects of the environment are categorized into this clinical entity or DSM called "autism." And then they become a "person who desires to go against the environment." It more so seems that the autistic way of being causes many misunderstandings which percolate into the environment, for both the autistic individual and even the psychologist diagnosing it. The misunderstandings are not really inherent to the autism, but the DSM would see it that way by calling the misunderstanding a "deficit which comes with autism." This turns the "problem/misunderstanding" into a clean and simple clinical entity called "autism", and then it tries to shape that clinical entity into something which is not autistic or less autistic to "fix the problem." The problem has now been transformed into a clinical entity. I guess this would be like the "suppression" which you mentioned earlier.
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20 hours ago, Phil said:
What if you had a fish bowel which starts of perfectly balanced and over time the fish’s food is replaced with chemicals, the air is replaced with toxins, and the water was becoming poisoned therein? And that’s just ‘how it is’. What might new fish be like as a product of that suppression (environment)? What if the fish behind these changes just labeled the new fish individually, as if the changes weren’t all-encompassing, given there aren’t any fish?
I really like this.
Is this to say that the product of an environment is being seen or "understood" as an individual entity, such as with the label of autism? The environment causes certain reactions and those reactions are "understood" as a person/fish who has "autism" or some such thing?
Quantum Mechanics
in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition
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I think quantum entanglement is really quite fascinating.
Synchronicities, coincidences, serendipity, etc, could potentially be some sort of quantum entanglement. With our mind and being.
The crazy thing is, I was just thinking of writing this post, and my buddy randomly messaged me on Discord, and all of a sudden mid convo he used "quantum mechanics" as an analogy. Lmao.