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Am I missing something? It seems people are focused on "enlightenment/...", which sounds great as well, but to me this is great. With enlightenment I take it you don't really have struggles, but to me struggles are life, along with joy as well. But I love the "Path" I love times of joy, the lack of control at times, the disappointment and fear, .....

 

What's the hurry for enlightenment/...? This is awesome. I love the time where I put in the work, contemplate, meditate, fast, seclusion, learn something, unlearn something, and see progress, but also even during regression; that's all awesome to me

 

I don't understand what appears to me to be hyper focus on enlightenment, am I missing something? I love this, I don't see the big appeal to get to enlightenment.

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On 9/15/2022 at 2:36 AM, Devin said:

Am I missing something? It seems people are focused on "enlightenment/...", which sounds great as well, but to me this is great. With enlightenment I take it you don't really have struggles, but to me struggles are life, along with joy as well. But I love the "Path" I love times of joy, the lack of control at times, the disappointment and fear, .....

 

What's the hurry for enlightenment/...? This is awesome. I love the time where I put in the work, contemplate, meditate, fast, seclusion, learn something, unlearn something, and see progress, but also even during regression; that's all awesome to me

 

I don't understand what appears to me to be hyper focus on enlightenment, am I missing something? I love this, I don't see the big appeal to get to enlightenment.

 

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2 hours ago, Alexander said:

@Devin Don't listen to @James123 He is arrogant know it all.Video will help.May I add 100 better then any Phil's or God's forbid Mandy's video.

Yo my man 😃😃 knowing is the biggest illusion and that’s enlightenment. No more video lol 😂 anything you understand it, is not it 😂 if it can be understood by knowing or experiencing, everyone would know 😃😃

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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@Phil but there is ignorance to see through, and with that you get to a point of no suffering, but even that, why strive for that? A little bit of suffering, is life. I suppose being able to turn it on and off is enlightenment, and to do so while still being able to cover your eyes with enough ignorance to be able to enjoy the surprise of the suffering as well. Sort of like multiple lives you get this life to do whatever and then you get a whole new pile of ignorance when you want the next.

 

That's really freeing for me to think about, to me that means soak up everything, this life is one flavor at the ice cream shop, just savor it

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6 minutes ago, Devin said:

@Phil but there is ignorance to see through, and with that you get to a point of no suffering, but even that, why strive for that?

This is like the show Jeopardy where the answer comes first and then the question. 

6 minutes ago, Devin said:

A little bit of suffering, is life.

What’s life? 

6 minutes ago, Devin said:

I suppose being able to turn it on and off is enlightenment, and to do so while still being able to cover your eyes with enough ignorance to be able to enjoy the surprise of the suffering as well. Sort of like multiple lives you get this life to do whatever and then you get a whole new pile of ignorance when you want the next.

Who’s turning what on & off, enjoying the surprise of suffering, having or getting lives? 

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6 hours ago, Alexander said:

@Devin Don't listen to @James123 He is arrogant know it all.Video will help.May I add 100 better then any Phil's or God's forbid Mandy's video.

I've watched Leo's stuff up to about a year or so ago, multiple times actually, it was very beneficial to me then. I like Phil's and Mandy's, very helpful. Why are you here then?

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25 minutes ago, Devin said:

What’s life? 

The sensations, I would say

38 minutes ago, Devin said:

Sort of like multiple lives you get this life to do whatever and then you get a whole new pile of ignorance when you want the next.

So… “sort of like multiple sensations you get this sensation to do whatever than you get a whole new pile of ignorance when you want the next sensation….?”

 

39 minutes ago, Devin said:

but there is ignorance to see through, and with that you get to a point of no suffering, but even that, why strive for that?

Who strives & gets to a point of no suffering? 

 

27 minutes ago, Devin said:

The singularity, turning on and off ignorance

How exactly is a singularity turning ignorance on and off?

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45 minutes ago, Phil said:

So… “sort of like multiple sensations you get this sensation to do whatever than you get a whole new pile of ignorance when you want the next sensation….?”

yeah, sort of like a little kid imagining, maybe it's not ignorance

46 minutes ago, Phil said:

Who strives & gets to a point of no suffering? 

The imagined life

46 minutes ago, Phil said:

How exactly is a singularity turning ignorance on and off?

Sort of like imagination/play

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see, why would anyone want to know that? Then the dreams over, to me enlightenment must be when you can turn it back on. Or else it'd be like your mom telling you play times over come eat your broccoli, or waking you up for school

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6 minutes ago, Phil said:

@Devin

What of what’s mentioned on this thread is of direct experience? 

(That there is a singularity, an enlightened self, that enlightenment is an on & off, that it’s like your mom telling you play time is over, etc.)

I'd say singularity or mom telling you play time is over

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