Blessed2 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 9:04 AM, BlendingInfinite said: USA is basically build upon catholic values, which means that you diverge from the idea of the founding fathers by entertaining new not thought-through ideas. The philosophy and faith of the founding fathers is far more nuanced and deep than that. The history and ideas of what the US constitution and society was built on was completely different from basic religious thought or catholic faith. US was more like a stark opposite of a religious state. That something like the US could have even appeared on the face of this planet meant thousands of people tirelessly fighting christian fundamentalism and chruches power. It was more like "Fuck a religious state, fuck a monarchy, fuck any sort of oppression. Let's try something completely new... Let's try reason, let's try spirituality, let's try freedom." And they did. The US was founded on a completely new paradigm of nature, life and human being. Not catholicism. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 On 9/17/2022 at 8:13 PM, Blessed2 said: The philosophy and faith of the founding fathers is far more nuanced and deep than that. The history and ideas of what the US constitution and society was built on was completely different from basic religious thought or catholic faith. US was more like a stark opposite of a religious state. That something like the US could have even appeared on the face of this planet meant thousands of people tirelessly fighting christian fundamentalism and chruches power. It was more like "Fuck a religious state, fuck a monarchy, fuck any sort of oppression. Let's try something completely new... Let's try reason, let's try spirituality, let's try freedom." And they did. The US was founded on a completely new paradigm of nature, life and human being. Not catholicism. Not true. Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, BlendingInfinite said: Not true. Okay...? How so? 🤔 I'm interested to hear what you think. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finitude Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Can't even kill insects... Can't endorse ending the life of a fetus. That said, perhaps an aborted fetus needed only that experience to transcend to whatever's next, so humility is present in that it is known the larger design is perfect and unfolds perfectly with or without attachments to positionalities. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/17/2022 at 2:13 PM, Blessed2 said: It was more like "Fuck a religious state, fuck a monarchy, fuck any sort of oppression. l agree. I’m surprised the US flag isn’t the middle finger. But I disagree on the ‘any sort of oppression’. That middle finger in the heir was also for all non-white and female Americans. More of a self serving for profit lip service business preaching coherence & unity, cleverly cloaking the underlying hypocrisy of deep seated racism, misogyny & exclusion in actions. The electoral college and pick-any-war might be the most tangible examples. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, Phil said: l agree. I’m surprised the US flag isn’t the middle finger. 😁 Or the Gadsden flag. It must be one of the most badass things I've ever seen. Even I would pledge allegiance for that one. Though not to it's history perhaps, or to what ideas it might be associated with today. But it really is a beautiful flag. It could be a flag for something greater. For me it kinda already is. 50 minutes ago, Phil said: But I disagree on the ‘any sort of oppression’. That middle finger in the heir was also for all non-white and female Americans. More of a self serving for profit lip service business preaching coherence & unity, cleverly cloaking the underlying hypocrisy of deep seated racism, misogyny & exclusion in actions. The electoral college and pick-any-war might be the most tangible examples. True. 👍 The US has such an interesting history and society + culture. Gotta study it more. For some reason I've felt fascinated by it for some time. I've got this dream of visiting it and spending an entire year just driving around, speakers blasting Bruce Springsteen. Not the big cities though, but the more rural areas. Maybe get to know some locals and see what they're up to. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 @Blessed2 Well hells yes to Bruce. I recommend Oregon. Specifically Eugenie, Oregon. Imo it’s the hidden gem of the US. Sedona, Arizona is also quite beautiful, and is a spiritual-healing Mecca. Hawaii is pretty amazing too. It’s like a technicolor reality. Long flight & quite expensive though. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 billion. Really people? Lol. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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