Jane Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 “For God Himself is triune…which means that even in eternity, God was both Himself and the Divine Other, united in Spirit…all before the universe ever began. “ I read the above quote today on the internet…it debunks a Nondual God, implying a Nondual God could not exist. So all us nondualists have got it wrong. is there anyway of clarifying this problem? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 There is no God, and this is nothing but God, is saying the same thing. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 5 hours ago, Jane said: it debunks a Nondual God, implying a Nondual God could not exist I’m not seeing that. How are you arriving at that from that quote? 5 hours ago, Jane said: is there anyway of clarifying this problem? Yes, inquiring, checking direct experience clarifies & inherently dispels any ‘problem’. 🙂 As infinite formless consciousness, for which there is nothing else, yet for which there is to be experience - what is the most fundamental necessity for there to be experience? What differentiates experience as experience and not infinite formless consciousness - regardless of wether thought claims there is a differentiation, or that there is no differentiation? What is found of direct experience in regard to what experience was before you were born, and what experience will be after you die? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 Thanks Mandy and Phil for the replies. Much appreciated, I'm no longer confused. 👍 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I am God since God never was in my direct experience.Problem solved. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I must be a unicorn then. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 On 8/30/2024 at 2:50 PM, Alexander said: I am God since God never was in my direct experience.Problem solved. That’s an amazing idea. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 19 hours ago, Phil said: I must be a unicorn then. 🙂 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 The Atman which is Brahman. "The entire universe is truly the Self. There exists nothing at all other than the Self. The enlightened person sees everything in the world as his own Self, just as one views earthenware jars and pots as nothing but clay". I am God that's enlightenment Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 21 hours ago, Alexander said: The enlightened person Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 On 8/29/2024 at 10:36 AM, Jane said: “For God Himself is triune…which means that even in eternity, God was both Himself and the Divine Other, united in Spirit…all before the universe ever began. “ I read the above quote today on the internet…it debunks a Nondual God, implying a Nondual God could not exist. So all us nondualists have got it wrong. is there anyway of clarifying this problem? How does this contradict oneness or unity? Also I don't see God as a him. Him/her is a human construct. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said: a human construct Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 9 minutes ago, Phil said: I loved him in Coming to America 🙂 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 2 hours ago, Robed Mystic said: How does this contradict oneness or unity? Also I don't see God as a him. Him/her is a human construct. It doesn’t contradict unity. But I’ve heard that some Christian’s reject the nondual God in favour of the triune God. Yes, Him is a human construct, so is God a human construct of the nameless one. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 @Jane I wouldn't worry about God. I would worry about You, I would inquire into that. Does it feel like you exist? If so where is that feeling located? Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 14 hours ago, Orb said: @Jane I wouldn't worry about God. I would worry about You, I would inquire into that. Does it feel like you exist? If so where is that feeling located? The feeling is located in the words only, as concepts known, via identification with thought. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 5 hours ago, Jane said: The feeling is located in the words only, as concepts known, via identification with thought. What is the source of the words? I suggest looking for it in direct experience. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 5 hours ago, Orb said: What is the source of the words? I suggest looking for it in direct experience. The source of the words, when I look for it in my direct experience, is a non-locatable. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, Jane said: The source of the words, when I look for it in my direct experience, is a non-locatable. Go closer to the them. Feel into them. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 10 hours ago, Orb said: Go closer to the them. Feel into them. Ok 👍 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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