Phil Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 If anyone is interested in unpacking this, let’s discuss. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 What does "assertion" mean? Can you give an example of what the belief that there is assertion might look like? Quote Mention I am the playful and ever-present Source, joyfully embracing every thought and emotion as part of my perfect, unfolding co-creative dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 Assertion. A confident and forceful statement of fact or belief. The action of stating something or exercising authority confidently and forcefully. Examples of the belief in assertion playing out… “I need to assert my opinion to be heard." "You must declare your intentions clearly." "We need to affirm our goals to achieve them." "She has to state her needs to get what she wants." "They must claim their rights to be respected." (These examples would be very ‘surface level’). Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 Of course connotation wise I’m talking about the entirety of reality. That there isn’t actually any opposition, any one, any thing or any force against you. In fact it’s the opposite, and is unconditionally. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 minutes ago, Phil said: That there isn’t actually any opposition... In fact it’s the opposite Eh? Also, this is not an assertion in itself? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 @Jonas Long Opposite of opposition in that there isn’t anyone or anything or any force etc against ‘you’ - that everything & everyone, every atom, every cell, every change in the weather, every ‘coincidence’, etc, etc - all - without exception… exists solely & exclusively for and in support of ‘you’. This can seem like an assertion but what I’m saying is it isn’t. Same as there can be an experience of say, someone limiting you such as saying you can’t have this or that, or even can’t be this or that… and that experience framed in that way is essentially a facade, and in fact that is in support of ‘you’. Literally only exists in that it serves ‘you’. It sounds crazy but the more it’s inspected the more it’s seen to actually be true. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 11 minutes ago, Phil said: @Jonas Long Opposite of opposition in that there isn’t anyone or anything or any force etc against ‘you - that everything & everyone, every atom, every cell, every change in the weather, every ‘coincidence’, etc, etc - all - without exception… all exist solely & exclusively for and in support of ‘you’. This can seem like an assertion but what I’m saying is it isn’t. Same as there can be an experience of say, someone limiting you such as saying you can’t have this or that, or even can’t be this or that… and that experience framed in that way is essentially a facade, and in fact that is in support of ‘you’. Literally only exists in that it serves ‘you’. It sounds crazy but the more it’s inspected the more it’s seen to actually be true. Doesn't opposite just mean a contrary position, and an opposition would be that position? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 And assertion is just putting forward a point believed to be legitimate, which is what this thread began as? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 @Jonas Long That’s the profundity. That it does seem so but isn’t. That there are opposites for example, would be assertion. There are opposites. <— That seems like an assertion, and what I’m suggesting is there is no assertion. That I’m suggesting. Same. Seems so, isn’t actually so. There literally isn’t ever a point being put forward. There’s no such thing or experience. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Hmmmm, like a sign post saying "there is no point in reading this sign", constructed for literally no reason but to annoy or confuse. But ok. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 @Jonas Long Like a sign that says ‘there is no sign’, and there truly literally is no sign. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Its almost like it's more productive not to have this discussion. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 There’s an apparent sign, so there’s an experience of a sign, but as there is not actually a sign, there’s no assertion no matter what the sign says. Beyond the sign analogy, this could be a person or people, even every person, or thoughts, concerns, etc, etc, etc. Applies to everything, anything, everyone and anyone. That this is or isn’t productive, or that there is productivity would be a really great example. It seems like there is, it seems obvious, logical, rational and makes perfect sense. But there isn’t. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 If you don't have an assertion in your life, you aren't happy. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 @Reena That’s just the thing though… reality is happiness, and that there is a separate self or selves which are or aren’t happy would be an assertion. And then you might think or say, ‘but that reality is happiness’ is an assertion - and that’s the whole point - it isn’t, it’s reality as is, it / this is literally happiness, which is without assertion. Reality as is, is that you don’t have assertion in your life. You, happiness, reality - don’t have a life! That you do would be an assertion - which there isn’t, because this is happiness! 🙂 Again it may sound crazy, but it’s actually true… which isn’t an assertion, but might seem like it. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, Jonas Long said: And assertion is just putting forward a point believed to be legitimate, which is what this thread began as? Also this aspect would be assertion (which there isn’t)… 5 hours ago, Phil said: The action of stating something It’s like… Happiness: “There’s people and some are happy and some aren’t, and the happy one’s are only happy if there is assertion”. Happiness: “uhm, ok, sure”. Happiness: “But it’s true!” Happiness: “sure, 😂 yeah. @Reena Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Ok fine, circular logic, but great, fine. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 And my book is coming out real soon btw. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Your post touches on a belief I still experience yet couldn't put into words. That there is an opposing force that can impose its will on me. Like how my mother is controlling and has crossed my boundaries many times to the point where I believed it was normal to have little to no boundaries. Yet somehow in the face of all the chaos, I see that there is truly no mom or opposing force. There are insights that you will have to discover for yourself, otherwise people will throw stones at you if you try to share the good news. Like with Jesus, he was totally a real person from the past. When I began to see that there is no mom or opposing force, my life is shifting and matching the natural empowerment I Am. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 4 Author Share Posted August 4 @Orb Yes, yes, yes. 🎯♥️ Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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