I don't even know if 'my' perception is 'mine'

[Phil]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Why would you use the word accusation?  Did I trigger you a bit Phil?  How do you know what anyone here believes?

The accusation is of you folks, and what you folks think (that no self is plausible as a final destination on the path). 

 

16 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

you folks think no self is plausible as a final destination on the path

 

Where is that said? Could you copy & paste it here? 

[Joseph Maynor]

24 minutes ago, Phil said:

No one here believes that. Where’d you even hear that? It’s a nonsensical accusation. 

Copy and paste below how you know what everyone on here believes.  That's kinda controlling to say no one one here believes something.  You couldn't know that.  Anyway, I realize I'm only stirring up the bees' nest here so I will go away.  The only way I can deal with this issue is to make a new video on the ego which I will do today.

Edited April 6, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Jonas Long]

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Copy and paste below how you know what everyone on here believes.  That's kinda controlling to say no one one here believes something.  You couldn't know that.  Anyway, I realize I'm only stirring up the bees' nest here so I will go away.

Even in jungian terms "ego" is not self.  Where did you come up with this idea anyway?  Identifying with the ego is a sure way to be miserable for the rest of time. 

[Jonas Long]

9 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I will go away.

How many times have you said this here over the last month?  It's getting a little absurd. 

[Joseph Maynor]

12 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

How many times have you said this here over the last month?  It's getting a little absurd. 

This time your wish is my command.  This is only tiring for you because you don't want me on here.  You should be pleased.

Edited April 6, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Joseph Maynor]

5 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

Even in jungian terms "ego" is not self.  Where did you come up with this idea anyway?  Identifying with the ego is a sure way to be miserable for the rest of time. 

I don't care about the Jungian term.  I care about the Maynorian term.  That's why your life is miserable because you identify with the ego but also hate it at the same time.  Take the last word on me.

Edited April 6, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Jonas Long]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I don't care about the Jungian term.  I care about the Maynorian term.  That's why your life is miserable because you identify with the ego but also hate it at the same time.  Take the last word on me.

Youre gonna die on this hill?  That the ego is you? Really? 

[Orb]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I don't care about the Jungian term.  I care about the Maynorian term.  That's why your life is miserable because you identify with the ego but also hate it at the same time.  Take the last word on me.

Negating self & embracing self are both delusions. 

[Joseph Maynor]

5 minutes ago, Orb said:

Negating self & embracing self are both delusions. 

Bingo!  That's exactly right.  I'm glad you posted that.  I don't need to try to help people on here.  

Edited April 6, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Jonas Long]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Bingo!  That's exactly right.  I'm glad you posted that.

"No self" isn't a negation of the self.  You don't negate what doesn't exist. 

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

"No self" isn't a negation of the self.  You don't negate what doesn't exist. 

You're caught up in clever theory.  That is gonna wear thin dude I'm telling you.  You can't hide from yourself using clever theory forever.  I can tell people who have self-acceptance and those who don't -- sometimes.  But carry on, I was where you're at too.  Don't let me spoil your guys' party.

Edited April 6, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Jonas Long]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You're caught up in clever theory.  That is gonna wear thin dude I'm telling you.  You can't hide from yourself using clever theory forever.  I can tell people who have self-acceptance and those who don't -- sometimes.

I'm sorry to tell you this, but you are not nearly as intuitive as you think. 

[Jonas Long]

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

  You can't hide from yourself using clever theory forever.  

There's no one to hide or hide from! 

Don't worry, I was where you're at too.  Like, forever ago. 

[Phil]

32 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Copy and paste below how you know what everyone on here believes. 

There’s no claim of knowing what everyone here believes. 

 

54 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is why you folks think no self is plausible as a final destination on the path. 

This is the claim. Where’d that come from? If it’s indeed a claim made on this forum, please search, find, copy & paste. 

 

32 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

That's kinda controlling to say no one one here believes something. 

It’s not controlling of anyone to say no one here believes something. 

 

32 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You couldn't know that. 

It’s not a claim that anyone knows anything. 

 

[Mandy]

@Joseph Maynor You are welcome here, you aren't separate here, you're creating the sense that you are in thought which is painful for a reason. IT'S NOT TRUE! 

[Orb]

@Joseph Maynor

 

@Jonas Long is right

[ConsciousDreamer666]

19 hours ago, Jonas Long said:

Youre gonna die on this hill?  That the ego is you? Really? 

That's funny. 

 

In spiritual communities I never could have imagined someone would be defending the ego 😂

But yeah man, stay @Joseph Maynor we are just playing with words at the end of the day