Enlightenment Genetics

[Joseph Maynor]

30 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

Nondual; Divine Feminine is Divine masc. 

Nondual: Lester Retzel is Jonas Long.  I couldn't resist.

Genetics is entirely irrelevant to spiritual enlightenment.  That's my response to this thread.  Spiritual enlightenment is available to everyone as they already are.

Edited April 1, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Isagi Yoichi]

39 minutes ago, Omar Osama said:

You're abstract like he is which is weird. 

 

@Joseph Maynor

No not weird this just Ne function at work maybe bec you're not an Ne user you think its weird.

 

But i think you are Ni-Fe user i am not sure

Edited April 1, 2023 by Omar Osama

[Jonas Long]

13 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Nondual: Lester Retzel is Jonas Long.  I couldn't resist.

Genetics is entirely irrelevant to spiritual enlightenment.  That's my response to this thread.  Spiritual enlightenment is available to everyone as they already are.

What is "Lester Retsel" backwards? 

[Isagi Yoichi]

@DMT Elf

Without understanding typology and interaction styles you can believe whatever you want. 

[Isagi Yoichi]

Just now, DMT Elf said:

@Omar Osama

So, what are you saying? You have an especially sophisticated understanding that lead you to a completely different conclusion than everyone else?

 

Idk if you studied it or not.

butyou cant type everyone by how similar he is to you.

 

What do you mean everyone else no one on the this forum or his forum typed him.

 

Here is how everyone typed him lol

 

 

He typed him twice Btw look for the other video.

 

There is a test of four questions by this guy you can check and tell us the result if you want.

 

If you are not already familiar with jungian analytical psychology check out this guy he is excellent resource.

[Rose]

1 hour ago, Omar Osama said:

You need to know how typing work to type him.

 

Classic in a sense that he portrays himself as a guru and a philosopher.

 

That's what enfps are like they want to be philosophers.

 

Didn't you notice and INTPs are not very extroverted like him lol its mad how everyone thinks he is an intp 

I know a few ENFPs, unhealthy qualities of them is that they do generally want to appear like they are wiser, martyr types.

 

They tend to believe in that too, and appear that way at first.  

Edited April 1, 2023 by Rose

[Proserpina]

1 hour ago, Omar Osama said:

 

@Joseph Maynor

No not weird this just Ne function at work maybe bec you're not an Ne user you think its weird.

 

But i think you are Ni-Fe user i am not sure

Wait.  You think Joseph might be an infj or enfj?  Which one? 

[Isagi Yoichi]

@Proserpina

ENFJ but ask him idk if he left or not

[Proserpina]

@Omar Osama He typically types as ENTJ.  But I've always questioned it since INFPs get along with ENFJs typically. 

What is your type?

[Isagi Yoichi]

@Proserpina

ENFP 

Type 7

[Mandy]

@Joseph Maynor It's not about agreement or compliance, it's about willingness to examine the suffering before blaming and believing. Would you rather be right and feel terrible, or be willing to let it go and let Source, (not anyone else) be the clarity. It's never about the person. 

 

 

[Phil]

9 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

So what you're saying Phil is if I don't buy into your teachings, I'm not welcome here. 

To see what I’m saying, simply read what was said. It’s still on the page, you can check anytime. 

9 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is a not a good look for you from my perspective.  This sort of sounds like something Leo Gura would say.  This will be my final post on here.  You won't have to deal with me anymore on here.  I'm done fighting.  I was where you're at years ago when it comes to teachings.  You think I don't understand your teachings?  That's a huge presumption on your part.  You're teaching the Divine Feminine.

Add to what was said if you like, but what’s added is what’s added, and what was said is what was said. 

I’ve not used the term ‘Divine Feminine’ anymore than I’ve ever claimed I am teacher teaching anyone.

The projection onto what’s said is the very overlooking of what’s said. 

Then it seems like I or someone or anyone else is saying… what you’re actually saying. 

[Someone here]

@Phil

If you want to persuade someone, to calm them down in this case, you need to put yourself in their shoes.

When people are angry, they don’t want to be told what to do. Instead, acknowledge their perspective on the issue, then offer an alternative. Never tell them that they are wrong.

Lastly, understand that when people are angry, they will often just need time to calm down on their own. You can’t calm someone down that doesn’t want to be calmed down.

[Phil]

29 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Phil

If you want to persuade someone, to calm them down in this case, you need to put yourself in their shoes.

There is no intention to persuade anyone here. There is no one to persuade. 

29 minutes ago, Someone here said:

When people are angry, they don’t want to be told what to do. Instead, acknowledge their perspective on the issue, then offer an alternative. Never tell them that they are wrong.

It seems you’re confused on which comments ‘you’re wrong’ arose. 

Again, there aren’t people which are angry or wrong. There is an experience of anger & unwillingness and the ‘burn’ of judgement. The discord is felt. Thus there is no intention to persuade. 

29 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Lastly, understand that when people are angry, they will often just need time to calm down on their own. You can’t calm someone down that doesn’t want to be calmed down.

 

Yes. It would be wise to perhaps allow one to sleep on it before even replying, vs coming from a place of reaction and banning or asking one to leave. 

 

What was said was that the comment, the description of the spherical nature of reality was quite accurate. 

[Someone here]

@Phil

16 minutes ago, Phil said:

There aren’t people which are angry or wrong. There is an experience of anger & unwillingness. The discord is felt. Thus there is no intention to persuade. 

 I feel it is important to let the person vent their frustration, sorrow, anger or what ever it is that they are expressing because of a disturbance. All emotions need to have their cycle completed.

Allow him to vent all that in his chest out. Don't try to refute everything he says. Just alow him to express. He will eventually chilax. I remember him in 2018 in actualized forum.. He has a pretty masculine  character. Try to let him be. 

Of course this is just my view on the matter. Do whatever you want. But don't lose him from your forum. He is a pretty smart guy. 

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Phil

 I feel it is important to let the person vent their frustration, sorrow, anger or what ever it is that they are expressing because of a disturbance. All emotions need to have their cycle completed.

Allow him to vent all that in his chest out.

Sometimes it’s your emotions that tell you things not just your thoughts.  It’s important to honor and listen to your emotions.  Blow ups can often be your body’s way of telling you something is right or wrong.  Very nice post not just the part I quoted about.  Take care.  In my case I think my emotions were spot on.  It’s important not to put “negative emotions” or conflict/chaos in the shadow.  I listen very carefully to how I feel.

Edited April 1, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Jonas Long]

It's crazy how dogma mistakes no dogma for dogma.  I guess it makes perfect sense actually. 

[Phil]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Phil

 I feel it is important to let the person vent their frustration, sorrow, anger or what ever it is that they are expressing because of a disturbance. All emotions need to have their cycle completed.

Allow him to vent all that in his chest out. Don't try to refute everything he says. Just alow him to express. He will eventually chilax. I remember him in 2018 in actualized forum.. He has a pretty masculine  character. Try to let him be. 

Of course this is just my view on the matter. Do whatever you want. But don't lose him from your forum. He is a pretty smart guy. 

I commented that Leo’s comment was accurate. 

[Jonas Long]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Phil

 I feel it is important to let the person vent their frustration, sorrow, anger or what ever it is that they are expressing because of a disturbance. All emotions need to have their cycle completed.

Allow him to vent all that in his chest out. Don't try to refute everything he says. Just alow him to express. He will eventually chilax. I remember him in 2018 in actualized forum.. He has a pretty masculine  character. Try to let him be. 

Of course this is just my view on the matter. Do whatever you want. But don't lose him from your forum. He is a pretty smart guy. 

He talks a lot about masculine vs feminine and integration, but don't mistake talking about it for being it.  He isn't integrated at all. On the one hand his theory is super rigid and dogmatic(unintegrated "fem" stuff) and on the other he is super emotional and sensitive not very well in control of his emotions and outbursts at all, constantly threatening to leave, and then not even sticking to it when he does(unintegrated "masc" stuff) this is why self proclaimed "life coaches" are often the last people who should be life coaches.

[Joseph Maynor]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Phil

He has a pretty masculine  character.

Phil is also a very masculine character too when you see him display himself outside his teachings/preachings.  I don't know if he wants you to know that though.

Edited April 1, 2023 by Joseph Maynor