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Pros and Cons of Saving Face


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I want this thread to explore the pros and cons of saving face -- either for yourself, your tribe, your Nation, your beliefs.  When is saving face good and when is saving face bad?  Is there a nuance here or is this clear as day to you?  

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_(sociological_concept)

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The pros and cons of saving face [for oneself and for others (or some system)]  is one of the deepest and most perplexing issues/topic in life.  This is a topic that deserves (1) notice and (2) good treatment.  You can see this in the difference between East Asian and Western mentalities.  But it cuts closer to home too literally.  The dynamics of this issue are all over the place.  I think my next video should be on this issue/topic.  What's the give and take between me as an individual and me as part of a group?  There's lines that are crossing all over the place here and it's not clear that order can even have the last say because chaos is a necessary factor too.  There's a working with between my way and taking one for the team.  Most people sense this but haven't tried to wrap their body and mind around this phenomenon.  I'm starting to gravitate toward this issue and beginning to see it with a new clarity.

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