Mandy Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, MetaSage said: Sounds good but take a look. A bottom line doesn't have to sound logical, but why do we feel undeserved? One possible reason is that we assume we're somehow wrong for not-knowing fundamental stuff about ourselves, life and existence. Especially when in virtually any culture not-knowing is seen as a malady, pretension will be adopted, both subtle and gross. With time, we start to feel uneasy and begin to suspect that we're inauthentic, fake, phony, superficial. It's due to the persona being performed by us, which doesn't exist, as if. This may be a key sense of identifying with an internal self, it seems to me. It's like me believing I'm lazy and unmotivated. The belief causes me to be lazy and unmotivated. I look for the cause of why I'm lazy, I worry about vitamin deficiencies, toxins, bad genes, bad parenting, whatever other ideas come across to explain my current assumed state. I don't see the assumption, but look for all kinds of reasons to bolster it up. But if I let go of ideas of what I am, I can then be in the moment whatever it is I want to be. If you just write down how you want to feel you will. We're our own Genies. The story of Genies being external slaves were written to show that the immediate manifestation of what you think you want isn't at all what you want. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 @Mandy I’ve found it’s much easier to just manifest a Genie. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 @Mandy 1 hour ago, Phil said: Is the infinite unconditional love that you are self-evident? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 @Phil YES. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Phil said: @solereproduction Now isn’t eternity. If interested, refer back to the original question. Everyone I ever met family, friends, socially interacting with tells me that, yet how evolving happens shows it always has been. Personal experience living as one of a kind "sole reproduction" is perpetually changing total sum of me never staying what I was here now. Aging like everything else individually here. series parallel energy flow current of ancestral positions present in ever changing forms occupying space specificlaly here. My instinctive brain navigating time contradicts every ideology historically achieved governing current events. So, where is the breakdown of communicating coming from? Intellectual reasonable doubt. Factuality replaced actuality of evolving in plain sight. Choices made and promises kept to agree to disagree living cannot be limited to eternally spearated as genetically present. Everyone needs a contextual soul of who rather than genetic whom one remains arriving a great great grandchild and which siblings/cousins become 1 of 16 great great grandparents added 4 more generations since arriving one of a kind. Edited March 17, 2023 by solereproduction add context to clarify life's specificity to evolving forward now. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 @solereproduction There’s nothing ‘wrong’ per se with conceptualizing. ‘At the end of the day’ it’s your path as it were. 🙏🏻 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Would you be receptive to someone who wanted to physically assault you? Whatever receptivity is it excludes at least that. It's good to integrate being more receptive, but it has limits/boundaries too. I think claiming to be receptive across the board is a pipe dream and nobody actually does that. It's something to integrate within certain nuanced limits -- in my opinion. And I realize people will agree and disagree with me and have their own unique opinion on this too, which I welcome. Would you be receptive to someone who prevented you from freely stating what you think and feel? Edited March 17, 2023 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 @Joseph Maynor What about receptivity such there’s already no you (integrating, the knower, etc)? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Phil said: @Joseph Maynor What about receptivity such there’s already no you (integrating, the knower, etc)? But how does this work practically? This seems like it goes no further than a pretty idea. That might be fine. But I like to put ideas to work too. If there's no you, who cares about defending you when someone tries to rape you? You care! You care about you. Obviously! There is a you on some level. I'm not forcing anything down anyone's throat, just expressing my honest opinion here. That said I think it's important to integrate the specialty of No Self in development work, but I don't think that's the pinnacle one can develop on the path. People with the Feminine in the shadow could really benefit by doing work integrating No Self. We all know one of those people well -- Leo! Edited March 17, 2023 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 @Joseph Maynor It's impossible to be receptive to a theoretical situation and it's impossible not to. The radio potentially receives whatever signal is being sent out, but if you set your dial to 98.1 you won't hear what's being broadcast on 102.9. If you set your dial to 102.9 and hate what's being broadcast, just change the station. The ever present potential for receptivity of the radio remains the same. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, Phil said: @Mandy I’ve found it’s much easier to just manifest a Genie. Did the lamp come first? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, Phil said: @solereproduction There’s nothing ‘wrong’ per se with conceptualizing. ‘At the end of the day’ it’s your path as it were. 🙏🏻 right and wrong based on universal binary code 0 -1. You want to play 6 degrees of separation to your 7th point of equally displaced as I am in my own 7th point of displacement. morality, legality, situational ethics, ecoomics, politics, religions, social consensus, or personally navigating as a simple reproduciton mutually evolving forward now. there is a yes or no question. I can do either or all the above simultaneously. I understand both real time evolving and relative time governing outcomes for each incoming great great grandchild added forward here already changing entire population one at a time now. You intellectually dance between selective interpretations of anything else is possible and you will constantly deny what isn't possible. Evolving doesn't exceed life limited to mutually evolving here one at a time as a whole food chain native to this one atmosphere. I won't follow reasonable doubt anymore. It will become the death of me. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: But how does this work practically? It’s what’s already the case. 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: This seems like it goes no further than a pretty idea. Let the idea go then. 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: That might be fine. But I like to put ideas to work too. Nothing wrong with that. 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: If there's no you, who cares about defending you when someone tries to rape you? You care! You care about you. Obviously! There is a you on some level. The ‘you’ / separate self, is an illusion of believing apparent thoughts. ‘The body’ is a thought, and what the thought points to is an appearance of ineffable. ‘Infinite intelligence’ points. Pure magic. 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: I'm not forcing anything down anyone's throat, just expressing my honest opinion here. That said I think it's important to integrate the specialty of No Self in development work, but I don't think that's the pinnacle one can develop on the path. There is already no self. There is already no thinker. 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: People with the Feminine in the shadow could really benefit by doing work integrating No Self. We all know one of those people well -- Leo! There is already no people / Leo. These are beliefs. There’s nothing wrong with these beliefs, opinions and discussions. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mandy said: Did the lamp come first? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, solereproduction said: right and wrong based on universal binary code 0 -1. You want to play 6 degrees of separation to your 7th point of equally displaced as I am in my own 7th point of displacement. morality, legality, situational ethics, ecoomics, politics, religions, social consensus, or personally navigating as a simple reproduciton mutually evolving forward now. there is a yes or no question. I can do either or all the above simultaneously. I understand both real time evolving and relative time governing outcomes for each incoming great great grandchild added forward here already changing entire population one at a time now. You intellectually dance between selective interpretations of anything else is possible and you will constantly deny what isn't possible. Evolving doesn't exceed life limited to mutually evolving here one at a time as a whole food chain native to this one atmosphere. I won't follow reasonable doubt anymore. It will become the death of me. It was just a simple yes or no question. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Phil said: It was just a simple yes or no question. yes it was a simple yes or no question, but the subject around the yes or no isn't so simple and an easy path to get lost arguing hypothetical scenarios. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Phil said: 😂 Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 @solereproduction Not when it’s yes. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, solereproduction said: yes it was a simple yes or no question, but the subject around the yes or no isn't so simple and an easy path to get lost arguing hypothetical scenarios. Appreciating the simple language used here btw. 🙏🏼 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Phil said: Appreciating the simple language used here btw. 🙏🏼 Power of suggestion has same simple limitations as natural perpetual motion. Again, easier to deceive last generation born than uncorrupt the previous 4. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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