Someone here Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Phil said: Thoughts don’t cause depression What's the difference between thoughts and concepts? Because you say the first does not cause depression while consepts do! Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: Do you have a daily practice like meditation, yoga, reiki, devotion, prayer, mindfulness... etc? Yes. Meditation. I use a technique called observing the space between thoughts. I myself have "invented" this technique. Just PM me and I Will be taking care of you teaching you this simple yet effective technique. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Someone here said: What's the difference between thoughts and concepts? Because you say the first does not cause depression while consepts do! Concepts don’t cause depression. Thoughts & concepts are pretty much synonymous. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Someone here said: I myself have "invented" this technique. Just PM me and I Will be taking care of you teaching you this simple yet effective technique. 🤦♀️ Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: Yes. Meditation. I use a technique called observing the space between thoughts. I myself have "invented" this technique. Just PM me and I Will be taking care of you teaching you this simple yet effective technique. This does not sound at all what "meditation" points to. I recommend the basic body-scan meditation on AoB site, or breathing meditation, holding focus on about an inch belov the navel. I also recommend checking out if there's are reiki courses near you and taking the class. As for prayer / devotion, see if it resonates to build an altar or something similar in your home / room and taking care of it on a daily basis. I mean create a space for objects and such you consider sacred. Mindfulness is the key here. A moment and space each day to slow down, be mindful, show devotion, and take a moment off from the rumination. Volunteering would also be good. See if you find some community / charity to snap off the rumination. Or just cooking and eating at least one meal or making and drinking a cup of tea etc. intentionally, mindfully. A seremony. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 @Someone here FYI, YES great approach or way to "frame it" but ya didn't invent it, just sayin'... https://www.evelynlim.com/experiencing-the-gap/ https://mindworks.org/blog/minding-gap-meditation/ https://dharmatreasure.org/what-is-the-space-between-thoughts/ https://www.dis-sos.com/the-space-in-between-an-alternative-approach-to-mindfulness/ Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowboy Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 @Someone here Following Arthur Janov's thinking (and he's helped many people cure depression), depression is an incomplete re-experience of old pain from childhood or infanthood. It's there, it's stuck, it's trying to come up, but the RE-pression system is too strong. Therefore, the sufferer of depression doesn't know where their lack of meaning and good feelings actually come from. The original cause has been repressed, out of awareness, and with that repression goes meaning. Because it's closing the sufferer off to a part of himself. Meaningfulness comes with wholeness. Wholeness comes with healing. Healing requires feeling old repressed pain all the way through, until the repression (and therefore the depression) is no longer necessary. We have to cry all the tears we couldn't cry, so today we can smile all the smiles we couldn't smile. see also my video explanation Quote Mention 10 Things To Know Before Attempting Self-Healing Work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 @flowboy Welcome! Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 @flowboy Great post! 🤍 The closer you get to the repression mechanism the more it can feel like awareness gets narrowed, as it is repression which is unconscious. As the unconscious becomes conscious, allowing the old pain to be felt, it starts to unravel. The goal must be to just allow it the be there, as trying to change the old pain or change the emotions, is the repression mechanism itself, the avoidance of feeling, resistance. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowboy Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 @Loop Exactly, we’ll said! Quote Mention 10 Things To Know Before Attempting Self-Healing Work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 @flowboy Welcome! Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 2/11/2023 at 2:07 PM, Someone here said: What's the difference between thoughts and concepts? Because you say the first does not cause depression while consepts do! On 2/11/2023 at 1:11 PM, Phil said: Conceptualization. On 1/23/2023 at 10:37 AM, Someone here said: Consciousness. Experience. Whatever.. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) On 2/16/2023 at 4:48 PM, flowboy said: @Someone here Following Arthur Janov's thinking (and he's helped many people cure depression), depression is an incomplete re-experience of old pain from childhood or infanthood. It's there, it's stuck, it's trying to come up, but the RE-pression system is too strong. Therefore, the sufferer of depression doesn't know where their lack of meaning and good feelings actually come from. The original cause has been repressed, out of awareness, and with that repression goes meaning. Because it's closing the sufferer off to a part of himself. Meaningfulness comes with wholeness. Wholeness comes with healing. Healing requires feeling old repressed pain all the way through, until the repression (and therefore the depression) is no longer necessary. We have to cry all the tears we couldn't cry, so today we can smile all the smiles we couldn't smile. see also my video explanation Well said Erik. You're very welcome here. I sent you pm too. Edited February 17, 2023 by Cupcake Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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