Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: What do you mean by “the finite”? I would say there’s no such thing as finite other than conceptually like with numbers. But that wouldn’t be relevant since we’re talking about reality. You are the finite. Anything that takes a specific form is finite. When God removes its form, or takes off its clothes, it is in that state. Right now you are that God but you are in a state that is clinging to a particular identity. Can you imagine what it would be like to have no identity? You can't. Precisely. That is by design. But that is what Infinity is. Edited January 8, 2023 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @Robed Mystic I'm trying to understand your perspective. So according to what you say a chair would be finite since god is taking the form of a chair? Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: Infinite subset of infinity. Exactly Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Orb said: @Robed Mystic I'm trying to understand your perspective. So according to what you say a chair would be finite since god is taking the form of a chair? Yes. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @Robed Mystic if there were no thoughts arising would there be anything that's finite? Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orb said: @Robed Mystic if there were no thoughts arising would there be anything that's finite? There would existence itself. There would be infinity Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @Robed Mystic ah okay, so finite does indeed exist unless theres no thought correct? Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, Orb said: @Robed Mystic ah okay, so finite does indeed exist unless theres no thought correct? In a sense. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Robed Mystic said: In a sense. The reason being is when you become infinite you are omniscient. Thought doesn't happen but you are still an Infinite Mind. Mind doesn't require finite thought Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: So not finite. Every infinite subset is infinity and so every part contains the whole. Ergo finite doesn’t exist. But it does. What are you? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: Infinity contained within a subset of itself you might say. It doesn’t matter if something has a distinctive form. All forms are infinity too. Here's the key. Formed reality is subjective and 100 percent relative. I could say it's pure Infinity and you could disagree. Who would be right Absolutely speaking? No one - because it doesn't exist. I'm speaking on the structure. Not how it operates. Edited January 8, 2023 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @Robed Mystic infinite mind is still an object. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @Robed Mystic the "relative" is a pointing word to thought, the relative has nothing to do with direct experience. ironically for someone who mentions it all the time, youre conflating the relative with the absolute, LOL. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @Robed Mystic when I say you're conflating the relative with the absolute, I mean that there seems to be a model you're holding on to, and a belief present that you're inside that model, you seem to take it seriously, hence for you this relative model seems absolute and it's being overlooked. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 45 minutes ago, Orb said: @Robed Mystic when I say you're conflating the relative with the absolute, I mean that there seems to be a model you're holding on to, and a belief present that you're inside that model, you seem to take it seriously, hence for you this relative model seems absolute and it's being overlooked. The nature of reality is what it is. That is Absolute. Us talking about it cannot capture it - thus it will result in contradiction. But that is neither here nor there. I'm not sure what your point is. As a society we strive for objectivity because we need a sense of structure. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Saylor Twift said: Formed reality as opposed to what? Formless reality? There’s only one reality. Hah. The dream. This dream - is the form. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Saylor Twift said: What doesn’t exist? An objective, non-relative reality? With correct things that can be said about it? What structure? How what operates? It's purely subjective. But that makes it objectively subjective. Paradox! We are trying to grasp it again. 😀 I like saying it's an Absolute Relativity. Good talk I hope 🙏 Edited January 9, 2023 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 No-one comes to the Father except through me, Every insight into Flight, comes from Mother Earth. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 8:00 AM, Robed Mystic said: We are trying to grasp it again. 😀 Seems to imply Truth is ungraspable. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 9:06 AM, Phil said: Seems to imply Truth is ungraspable. It seems to, indeed 😀 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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