Saylor Twift Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 No spiritual person knows what it is. No spiritual teacher or guru knows what it is. No mystic, saint, or sage knows what it is. Nobody at all knows what it is. Nobody at all has ever known what it is. And finally, nobody at all will ever know what it is. The reason nobody knows what it is, is because it’s a social construct just like gender, race, and money. This means it’s defined by the collective participation of the individuals involved with it. As is the case with any social construct, this works in such a way that any individual involved in creating it may remain ignorant of their part in doing so. Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Saylor Twift said: it’s a social construct Seems like someone knows what it is. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylor Twift Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Phil said: Seems like someone knows what it is. Saying something is a social construct doesn’t explain what it is, only how it works. It’s the same as how saying “gender is a social construct” doesn’t explain what a man or a woman is, only the process through which they are defined. Edited December 18, 2022 by Saylor Twift Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Saylor Twift said: Saying something is a social construct Is saying something is a social construct. What’s a social construct? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 It isn’t something to know literally just Love, Mind melts into always never having been there. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylor Twift Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phil said: Is saying something is a social construct. Not exactly, because it points to the process of construction itself rather than the result of the construction or what is being constructed. Edited December 18, 2022 by Saylor Twift Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 @Saylor Twift Apparently you’re saying no one knows what spirituality is while saying what it is… a social construct, which is the process of construction. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylor Twift Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Phil You’ll never be right. Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylor Twift Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Phil lol, anyway... 7 hours ago, Phil said: a social construct, which is the process of construction. That’s not what a social construct is. A social construct is this, 16 hours ago, Saylor Twift said: it’s defined by the collective participation of the individuals involved with it. But saying the way in which something becomes defined says nothing about what it’s defined as. Sure, you could define something as a social construct, and in that sense, yes, I know what spirituality is, and so do others. But that would create another problem because it’s being defined as what it’s being defined by. Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 8:06 AM, Saylor Twift said: nobody knows what it is 8 hours ago, Saylor Twift said: I know what spirituality is, and so do others Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylor Twift Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 Taking my words out of context in order to create an apparent contradiction where there isn’t one is bad faith argumentation. I won’t try to explain myself anymore. Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Saylor Twift There is no argument that is the veil of thought. No two people here, just Wonder wondering. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Saylor Twift You are yourself. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylor Twift Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Phil 👍 That’s quite an astute observation. Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylor Twift Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Loop From your point of view, what is Phil trying to do in this thread? Quote Mention People haven't always been there for me but music always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 @Saylor Twift No one is trying to do anything here, that’s the rub. It all goes without anyone to do it, nothing needs to be known at all. It has absolutely nothing to do with knowing, just Love. There is nothing to know about Not-Knowing, Knowing is a knot, untangled as Feeling. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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